Inside the Echo Chamber
Many years ago I received an email.
It was from someone who used to be a friend but then he started going off the rails a bit. I don’t know why I kept the mail, but I did. In it, he attacked this site for no apparent reason –
Then there are the blogs that are personal, a sort of BEBO, where you say here I am, please by my friend. And the more hits you get, the more friends you feel you have, but where the replies are almost always from fellow personal bloggers – all feeding off each others congratulations, and where disagreement is not on the agenda. Very nicely put recently in the Times as “an onanistic niche activity persued by self-regarding geeks, oddballs and social pariahs.”
I’m not quite sure of the point he was trying to make, but in effect I think he was trying to describe what has now become known as the Echo Chamber phenomenon.
The Echo Chamber thing is an interesting subject. I frequently deride the Nannies and Public Health for living in their own echo chambers, feeding off their own self congratulations and egging themselves on to greater heights of control, but can the same be said about this site? Am I living in my own echo chamber while I decry Public Healths version?
One of the things I have noticed here is the lack of debate. I write about some particularly nasty bit of Nanny Stateism and the comments all agree with me, which has led to quite a few accusations that I delete and ban any dissent or disagreement. In fact I have only barred two individuals completely and that was because they were inane trolls. I did delete comments once, a long time ago but that was because a rather nasty fight started between two readers which didn’t stop until I removed their comments.
So how come I seem to only have like-minded readers? Well, the answer is simple – I didn’t choose my readers; they choose me. I have no control whatsoever over who reads this site, nor would I want to. Likewise I tend to read sites whose point of view is similar to my own. Just look at it logically – would I seek out friendship with people I violently disagree with? No. Like most people, I hang around with people who tend have the same interests as myself. Would I subscribe to Golfing Weekly or Woman’s Own magazines? No, because I am not interested.
The Nanny Echo Chamber differs from mine in one vital aspect. While I place no restrictions on my readership and would be quite happy to debate any topic, the Nannies go so far as to refuse public access to their discussions. The only people who are allowed participate are those of like mind. They have a publicly stated policy of refusing to listen to Big Tobacco, Big Sugar or whatever the demon of the day is. They actively and publicly refuse to listen to any counter-argument that may be put.
To put it another way, my Echo Chamber is organic and flexible, while the Nanny version is fixed and rigid.
Not that I really care what is said about me or this site. I’m not trying to win friends or influence people.
I just do it for the craic.
and a damn good craic we have
still liking whatever you tweek’d the site with, it’s clearer and faster
Indeed. I do like the new format.
Delighted to hear it. I wasn’t sure about the move [if it ain’t broke, etc?] but I’m glad it was worth the effort.
All I have to do now is sort that weird thing some people are getting where it sticks on an old post.
Since you changed your plug-in or whatever it was yesterday, I seem to be back to normal. Straight to the current post, and all comments showing. So maybe that was the problem. We shall see with time.
I don’t think you are in an echo chamber, GD. Sure, for the most part we are singing from the same hymn sheet, because none of us like to be told how to live our lives by some fuckwit who not only hasn’t got a clue, but also lies through his / her teeth to justify persecuting us. However, people do disagree with you on some issues sometimes. They just do it politely.
Now that’s good news! It would make sense as it was the caching plugin that I switched, but it still doesn’t explain why only a few were affected.
“They just do it politely.” So politely I don’t even notice?
and would you really care if you did notice? naw
Nice new layout. Cleaner and easier to read.
It still takes a little getting used to at my end though. And it does seem to have cured the keyboard dyslexia!
I disagree with everything you say,said or will say!
If you will be a little more specific, maybe we can have a good row about it?
BTW: Happy New Year to all the guys in the funny Room 20157 at Langley. I suppose people in other rooms are trying to figure out how to smooth the jittery triangular relationship that seems to have developed between Trump, the CIA and Obama. When in doubt blame everything on North Korea and Lichtenstein.
I read, but I don’t always comment. You don’t know what effect you are having.
Now you have me really worried. Am I responsible for an outbreak of measles or something? Is Brexit my fault?
GD everything is your fault. If you will stick your head above the parapet….
I can see better from up here. Confucius says “he who doesn’t stick his head above the parapets is missing a magnificent view” Or words to that effect.
Did Confucius also suffer from terrible headaches?
But Hrun the Barbarian says, “He who sticks his head above the parapets is the first one to get an arrow up his nose”. Or words to that effect.
And no, I don’t have a blog page (whatever that is), but delighted to be allowed to comment. Liked the pic.
It’s okay – I don’t know what a blog page is either. What pic?.
The Pricess of course. Or have you forgotten her already? That must have been some great party.
One day I will get this damned electric gizmo to spell what I type. Meant Princess. You know, little grandaughter.
Ah, Squidge! No chance of forgetting her.
To put it another way, my Echo Chamber is organic and flexible, while the Nanny version is fixed and rigid.
Yes, something vaguely geriatric erotica about that – worth developing.
Now isn’t that a very strange thing but I saw nothing double entendre about that until you pointed it out. And I thought I was bad…….
succinct and to the point (I’m full of cliches, sorry)
Nothing wrong with a good cliche?
I think, as you mention, that the stifling of dissent is what separates an Echo Chamber from a group of like-minded people.
I’ve posted plenty of comments on tobacco control-oriented blogs, and I’m hard pressed to think of a single case where the comment wasn’t deleted (more often than not, it happens within a matter of minutes).
Conversely, if there are no (or very few) dissenting views being expressed on blogs like this one, it could simply be that there are not large numbers of people in the general public who feel an inclination to defend the (increasingly indefensible) tobacco control worldview.
Welcome Nate! Sadly another viewpoint is that readers who disagree with my viewpoints will just mark me [and my ilk] as a nutter because they prefer to believe tabloid headlines and the widely disseminated propaganda.
Perhaps it’s because you actually make sense? Of course, you word your sense so well.