Between the rock and a hard place — 9 Comments

  1. More on Varenicline and its side-effects:

    swelling of the face, throat, tongue, lips, gums, eyes, neck, hands, arms, feet, ankles, or lower legs


    difficulty swallowing or breathing


    swollen, red, peeling, or blistering skin

    blisters in the mouth

    pain, squeezing, or pressure in the chest

    pain or discomfort in one or both arms, back, neck, jaw, or stomach

    difficulty in moving your arms or legs

    shortness of breath


    nausea, vomiting, or lightheadedness

    slow or difficult speech

    sudden weakness or numbness of an arm or leg, especially on one side of the body

    calf pain while walking

    In clinical studies, people who took varenicline were more likely to have a heart attack, a stroke, or other serious problems with their heart or blood vessels than people who did not receive this medication. (

    I think I’ll stick with the fags!

    • So they ask us to run the gauntlet of that little shop of horrors because there is an extremely remote possibility that some time in the dim distant future, someone might find a “side effect” of vaping?

      Presumably the above list is therefore “safe” as they are recommending it?

      • Side effects of vaping:

        Mild stimulation
        Improved mood
        Occasionally getting e-liquid on your finger

        It’s a fucking nightmare.

    • The blindingly obvious doesn’t include a money train from tax money and lucrative “lobbying” by … hm … for example Big P? So the blindingly obvious isn’t blindingly obvious because of the radiance of money to be had by turning a blind eye to the blindingly obvious?

  2. Afternoon Grandpa, I dont smoke but i grew tobacco several years ago and the smokers said it was fine!

    • Fair play!  Can you please dispatch a sampler package with a view to further orders?  Around 20Kg should do for a start….

  3. Varenicline kills people by messing up with their minds, leading them to commit suicide. Young people and real deaths, not computer generated smoking related deaths in 70 and 80 year olds. Just google it, and it’s only the tip of the iceberg.

    That such a product is still on the market shows that Big Pharma is only after profit and health authorities can’t be trusted.

    • I just want to know if they count the suicides as successful quit attempts.

      “Chantix – Because You Can’t Smoke When You’re Dead.”

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