Finding the unfindable — 16 Comments

  1. Yeah, I miss the old days too when you could actually understand what you didn't understand.

    Something that's there but can't be seen and it's undetectable anyway? Explains my brain then.

    • The problem is that I could imagine little electrons orbiting a nucleus.  What I can't imagine is all these Quarks, Quarms, Strange and Weird particles or whatever they're called. Then there's the strings that wobble and squirm in God knows how many dimensions.  I think they invent those just to confuse people.

  2. not too bad, but one night on the telly I heard a science bloke explaining how he was studying the nothing that was there before the big bang.

    thats right studying nothing hard to beat that


    • I seem to remember reading something recently that they discovered galaxies that predate the Big Bang?  So either those galaxies happened to have been hanging around when the Big Bang happened or else they are traveling backwards in time.  Or maybe the Big Bang is a Damp Squib. 

      It's sad to think of someone devoting their time to studying what happened before something that didn't happen?

    • I think I saw that. 

      My theoretical physics (Grade 5 O Level, 1971) leads me to believe that once they've figured out the whole fucking thing God will simply click 'Restart'. But wouldn't it be great if the Universe contracted and time went backwards? I'm sure we could adapt to it.


      • I hate the idea.  I'd have to go through puberty and schooldays again.  Think of all that dreaded homework!

  3. It's all coming round again, it used to be called the aether, nothing new here at all.

  4. So having invented something that isn't there [if you can’t see it, measure it or even detect it then to all intents and purposes it isn’t there?] they are now setting out to detect it.

    Well if Tobacco Control can do it with 'second-hand smoke', I'm sure the lads at CERN will manage ok. TC just made up some numbers and issued press releases saying "research has shown…" and "experts have said…" and Bob's your uncle; job done.

    Is this 'dark matter' anything to do with the 'dark side'? If so, your Jedi mate is going to get into a bit of a spin about it, what with it being 80% an' all. Not good odds at all.

    • No doubt SS will claim that Dark Matter is in fact The Force, or else some extraterrestrial beings who are just energy with no matter.  I do wish he'd join in these discussions…..

      • That could be exactly what it is. The problem for us human type folk is that the good 'ol Earth lies far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the galaxy and dark matter (the force) only exists in the main body of the galaxy. No midi-chlorians for us then. Probably a good thing all around?

  5. What is 'SPACE'?

    It cannot be nothing, otherwise it would not exist. It must be 'a thing'. But the only property that it seems to have is volume, if volume alone is a real property. Einstein came to the conclusion that objects in space move in circles because matter (the Sun, for example) bends space. But if space can be bent, it can also be compressed and stretched, can't it? What then happens to the speed of light? 

    Is space the carrier for light waves?

    The is a huge void in physics which will not be filled until someone comes up with a theory of the nature of space.

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