Legalised theft
The big guns are lining up.
Revenue is about to write to us all and tell us what our properties are worth, with a view to mugging us for their damned Property Tax.
I would argue that there is only one way to establish the value of property and that is to sell it on the open market. Any other valuation is just an arbitrary figure that is plucked out of the air and is totally meaningless. After all, if I put the Manor up for sale and no one wants to buy it, then it is effectively worthless? Conversely I could put it on the market only to find it is the dream home of some oil-rich sheik in which case it could be worth millions?
That aside, Revenue are already coming out with the threats. They haven’t even valued my property yet but already they are threatening me that if I don’t pay, they are going to steal the money directly out of my pension before I even get it. And if they can’t get it that way they will throw the full weight of the courts at me. And if that fails, they will simply wait until I am dead and then claim the full amount [plus interest, of course] out of the sale of the house.
This tax is nothing more than legitimised theft. They have decided they want money, and I have to give it. If I refuse, they simply take it from my grave.
I would be tempted to go for the old “scorched earth” policy. When I go, I take my home with me in a grand blaze of glory, but the cunts would still get their blood money out of the land that remains.
So now I have to work out how to make my land worthless.
I shall look forward to finding out how you propose to "devalue" the Manor.
Interesting how much thought was put into levying this tax:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2013/0108/1224328564294.htmlhttp://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2013/0108/1224328564294.html
That is really depressing reading. And they wonder why they are treated with so much contempt in the media?
I'm just hoping someone will scrutinise that bill and find it is unconstitutional
It is indeed depressing, but think how much more/other important legislation is treated with the same level of, let's face it, contempt by our Gubmint.
eh…halting site…
if you put Manor on wheels, and call the land a halting site. they will not come near you or the land, no matter the value. its exempt
The muggers know who not to mug.
Not a bad idea. Anyone got a spare set of wheels?
Luckily here in Mayfield, all of the properties that do sell, involve cash and a handshake. It would be more than your life was worth to ask how much. So, it was great glee and tongue in cheek, that I await the Revenue valuation for Fortress Mallon.
Whatever they quote – just insist they buy the house off you for that price!
They introduced a property tax in Greece last year. No, it was the year before that. 2010. Sprung it on the population in about November, then backdated it to January the fuckers. That had a lot of people scrambling for cash.
There are various 'bands' according to area, and the tariff applies to the area you live. That tariff is then applied per square metre. Where I am, it's €3 per sq.m. My place is 90 sq.m, so I pay €270 p.a. property tax.. But here's the sneaky bit. They split the payments into five, and then add it onto your (state controlled) electricity bill. So if you don't pay, you get the electric cut off. Tricksy, eh? They really are bastards, the taxmen of the world. I sometimes wonder how they sleep at night.
€270 a year? You have to be joking? Our lot reserve the right to place their value on my property [I have to then prove that it's worth less]. I haven't received the valuation yet but I know I am going to be down for anywhere between €500 and €600 per year, and that's just for starters. Believe me, that represents a considerable chunk of my pension.
True GD, it's not a lot compared to the sum you're looking at, but when you see how beleaguered the Greeks are at the moment, and the current mean income, it really is not what people needed. It's really tough here for a lot of people now. And they've just slapped another 12.5% on the price of cigs/baccy! The bastards.
People are gingerly fingering their packets of piano wire, wondering if they should be selecting the A sharp or the B flat….
Fair point about comparisons. Things are fairly tough here too though. I don't have the figures to hand but a frightening percentage of mortgages are in arrears here at the moment, with some as high as two years in arrears. People here have just been bled dry but they still come back looking for more.
Incidentally, my wire is F Major.
Gd, have a look at trusts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUAtg-hSlYQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUAtg-hSlYQ
http://books.google.es/books?id=17ABGu3q8xkC&pg=PA17&lpg=PA1&hl=es#v=onepage&q&f=false
Hmmmmm!! Some interesting stuff there that deserves some thought. Many thanks.
Trusts stuff here too.
http://freetheplanet.net/links
My house, car and chattles are just about to be handed over to 'the trust' using the documents that can be found on that site.
Happy New Year, belatedly but then again the Gregorian calendar is make believe so I've really no idea when the year ends/starts.
Grandad,
You'll find the awful mortgage arrears story here – just scroll down !
http://thestory.ie/
Thanks, John. I knew I had seen the figures very recently, and that is where I saw 'em!
€600? UK Council Tax and in the county I live in
http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/counciltaxhousingandbenefits/counciltax/ctaxhowmuch/counciltaxbandallparishes.htm
This is where they're taking you Grandad.
Sean,
Did you also have to pay "Stamp Duty" at point of purchase ?
Yes, but I can't remember how much, it was 24 years ago! My employer moved me here so I got that paid on expenses.
Iv said it before they know they will get away with anything because nobody protests. Its just enslavement while the perpetrators of the countries problems can pop over to London get made bankrupt and walk away laughing. It was the same with that gobshite Q in the media how he was been released from 'jail' to spend Christmas with his family. The c*nt was never near a prison cell but had his feet up in the officers training quarters. They threaten people with jail it they don't pay this property when are they going to put some bankers in jail.
you could get someone to seed the ruins with radioactive waste or toxic chemicals after you die,hopefully that would stitch the b*stards up
UK council tax here in Kent £1,600 plus when I bought this house five years ago I had to pay £9,600 in stamp duty, they are never satisfied council tax doubled in the Labour years and it has just become a mortgage you can never redeem. I just hope you are not headed in the same direction.