Don't listen to the words – Watch the picture — 11 Comments

  1. Concur absolutely, Grandad. This particular propaganda exercise is so transparent one would want to be a total “ludramawn” (anyone remember that word from angry irish teachers?) not to see through it. Videos released showed the servicemen/woman relaxed in captivity, even though they were compelled to “confess” to having strayed into Iraqi waters.

    It is just not believable that they could have been undergoing psychological torture at the same time, as is now claimed. Are the British Government and their spin doctors taking their own people and the rest of the world for gullible idiots?

  2. I take then that you are a cynic, Monique? 😉

    And the majority of the British people will fall for it.

    Many’s the time I was called a ludramawn [and worse]. Stop brining back bad memories.

  3. I’d be interested in seeing a video tape of this purely to see if she is fibing. I couldn’t care less though about the whole incident though.

    And now back to the Irish…
    Gamalaracht! (donkeying around) – Do you remember that one?

  4. It was on ITV, and I don’t think they do any sort of archiving.

    I was watching her face, and every time she told a whopper [i.e. most of the time] she blinked rapidly, the eyes would look anywhere but at the interviewer and there was a lot of mouth twitching too. I would love to hear a professional interrogator’s view as they are trained to look for these signs.

    No. Never heard of ‘gamalaracht’, I’m afraid.

  5. Mmmh. I’m inclined to be a cynic too. Even Blair paid the Iranians respect afterwards.

    Good article Grandad (and no, that doesn’t mean your others are not good…I just don’t always get time to read all or comment on your prolific output!!!).

  6. No Monique, the sailors themselves KNOW that the rest of the world are gullible idiots. Which story will garner the better deal:

    – We went to Iran and got a nice gift bag;

    – I was abducted by horny Iranians that wanted to have sex with my unborn baby.

    The second story will, of course, fly off the shelves and the movie rights are already being negotiated…

  7. Those fool surrendered without a fdight and willingly turned themselves into mouthpieces for the most unstable political regime on earth.

    For all their follies, the Americans have balls. They would never have given into something humiliating like that so readily. If you want a precedent, read Black Hawk Down: A Story Of Modern War. When two Delta Force snipers were overwhelmed by Somali forces, they kept popping away at them until finally they were killed.

    The Brits would have given them tea and crumpets, if this incident is anything to go by.

  8. they kept popping away at them until finally they were killed

    That did ’em a lot of good!

    I’m surprised at you Dario. What ever happened to the good old student pacifists of my day?


  9. Hey, they died valiantly, and the point I’m making is that those English soldiers seemingly didn’t have the same tenacity.

    Student pacifists are still lurking about Belfield … they’re just busy in the Student Bar most of the day …

  10. I have 2 points.
    First off, the brits have a very good point on overwhelming force. They lived to fight another day.
    Rule #11 of the Rules of Gunfights clearly states… Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

  11. God! You’re a bloodthirsty one Brianf. Remind me never to spill your pint.

    @Dario – You should be out on peace marches – demanding the end to the war, and burning down the British and American Embassies and slaughtering their staff [all in the name of peace, of course]

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