Whatever happened to the Irish? — 6 Comments

  1. I think it was Fintan O’Toole who wrote that it was 2004 when the Irish learned to obey the law. 

  2. First of all I don’t believe we are rebels, or ever really were. We vote for cute hoors, gombeens, tax dodgers, and brown envelope receivers,  NIMBYs ahead of the common good thinking there is crumbs falling from the top table. we swapped the British for the church and now the EU.
    The thing I find strange with vast majority opposed to brexit, is that, if the price is you will be poorer, people are happy with that.
    Not everything comes down to LSD.

    • Whatever we were in the past, the modern Irish are like a docile herd of cattle happily trotting towards the slaughterhouse. 

      Whether there is a hard, soft or no Brexit I am expecting prices to rise here, simply because it is a grand excuse to add a wee percentage.

  3. Not just the Irish. It is all over the Western world and has been a work in progress for several decades.
    I see it coming to an end as our base nature starts to wake up. Let’s do our best to encourage that awaking in everyone although it isn’t going to be pretty. Maybe the next generations will learn from it as it is going to hurt so much, similar to WW2 imo.

  4. ” I just do not like being dictated to by a bunch of unelected foreigners whose only interest seems to lie in ever increasing control.”
    That, Grandad, is the prime factor behind the results of the UK’s 2016 referendum. Unfortunately, our elected gobshites – who are mostly otherwise unemployable – think only of their own position in what they see as the upper echelons. I don’t care if they’re Paddy, Brit, Jock or Russki political class, they’re nearly all self-serving dictatorial arseholes who make me wish birth-control could be back-dated.

  5. I think you had it when you wrote, “…a whole generation growing up who will accept the ban as part of normal life…“, although I would honestly state that it’s now two generations in play here. For example, the first generation would be the children of our generation who, once come of age, would find it much easier to adapt to “the way of things” than the cranky, old, stubborn folks of our generation that lived for decades when things were much different than today (and thus rebelled to any change?)

    The second generation, of course, are the children the first generation are currently raising (or have raised) who were born and brought up while these “changes” were already in place so to speak and thus accept them as normal. But you stated that already.

    As far as a lack of response when the ban first came in is concerned is anyone’s guess at this point, but I really don’t know either. But I do have a feeling that people in general (and I hate to generalize but oh well) find that tending to their own personal lives can be tasking enough without adding more to it, such as a then proposed smoking ban. From personal observation I found that “the change” has to be pretty damn severe in order to finally get enough attention to make a difference.

    Of course I was born and raised in the US, not Ireland obviously, and though our daily lives may be similar in many ways there’s also many differences as well. We accepted, for example, that the “late lamp” of bars closing at 3:00 am on the weekends was done away with in a sneaky, round-about way (probably for the best) and we finally accepted, not without a good amount of rebelling, the ban on smoking in said bars, restaurants, public places, businesses, etc. The difference perhaps was that the change was gradual and not all at once? Besides, that was decades ago so there’s a fair amount of “generations” that already accept this as normal.

    Okay, this comment is longer than I expected so I’d better stop, yes? (I’ll have to edit anyway since the [TinyMCE?] comment field doesn’t recognize paragraphs for some reason). Please forgive typos as there’s bound to be some.

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