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Tending the Golden Goose — 8 Comments

  1. Well said.

    You have to hand it to them, they've won. Nobody (except smokers/nicotine users) can see the scam for what it is.

    Looks like they'll get away with it. Hell isn't bad enough for them.

    I'm sure the government will question the tax increases though, with the huge black market for fags as it is.

    All these Irish tobacco controllers are incredibly ignorant and know nothing about the subject. Mention snus to them and they'll never have heard about it.

    If there is any justice in the universe Kathleen O Meara and the like will reap what they sow. I'm not holding my breath for it though. 

    Such a goodie, fighting the evil tobacco companies, no one can see her for the corrupt stuck up and predatory twat that she really is.

     

    • You have to hand it to them, they've won.

      Not yet, they haven't. And I think that e-cigs are going to be their downfall. The lies are starting to be obvious and schisms within the movement are appearing.

      • I hope you're right. 

        I'd love to see the downfall of the corrupt anti smoking movement in my time.

        They've caused a lot of damage to a lot of people – pubs, retailers, smokers, the taxpayer – so there is some hope especially with the stance that many of them have taken towards e cigs.

        • The big problem now is that somehow they have managed to brainwash a whole generation into the idea that somehow passive smoke is deadly.  That is going to take some undoing?

          • But that's why I think e-cigs will be their undoing – they have been busy trying the same bullshit about second-hand steam, which is palpable nonsense, even to someone who has swallowed the SHS propaganda, and I think as a result people are waking up to the fact that they lie about stuff. Once the seed of doubt is planted, it's difficult to convince people that you're telling the truth.

            Although I have an e-cig which I use sometimes, I'm a tobacco man myself. But I'm right behind the e-cig movement, even though I disagree with a lot of the things they say in justification of their choice, because e-cigs are undermining the demonstrably friable foundations of Tobacco Control. And the anti-smokers are helping in their own demise because their implacable hatred of all things smoking blinds them to the fact that their antipathy towards e-cigs exposes them for the hypocrites that they are.

            • I have noticed the birth of that new breed – pro-vaper, anti-smoker – which is doing nobody any favours.  There should be no concessions in the fight against Puritanism.  Being pro e-cigs but anti-smoking is yielding ground and conceding that it is quite OK to ban anything [provided it isn't e-cigs].

              Puritanism in any form is population control and an insult to liberty.  There should be no concessions.

              • Yes, they're just desperate to be accepted back into the fold of polite society, and polite society has been indoctrinated into hating smokers. So now they vape, rather than smoke, they're only too eager to throw smokers under the bus in their bid for acceptance.

  2. I had no idea of what a huge scam the anti smoking movement is until I quit smoking and switched to vaping.

    I found incredulous that they would be so opposed to vaping. Once I scratched beneath the surface I can see what wasters they are. And not harmless wasters, tax sponging bigots that have divided society for the benefit of their own pockets.

    I can assure you that vapers are generally treated exactly the same as smokers. I had a woman move out of the way on the street to avoid my cloud of steam recently, while giving me a dirty look. I was told in a bar that I wasn't allowed to smoke inside, by a customer, even though the bar owner permitted it, and an argument ensued. No peace for the nicotine user.

    A lot of ex smoking vapers have had similar experiences and self shame by going outside.

    We are also asked "but when are you going to give up that?"

    I usually say politely that I'm not too worried about it, while silently thinking "fuck off and mind your own business"

    Vapers are all ex smokers so we're used of the bullshit.

    If they try to bring in a vaping ban we will put up a big fight and expose the scroungers for what they are. I know they have been thinking about it but they might not have the balls for it after the Public Health England report.

    Meanwhile let them continue to hand over the cigarette market to the IRA, and fill their own snouts with tax payer cash.

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