Flying the Australian flag

This is going beyond a joke.

Mike Daube [an Australian professional Bully Stateist] is over here giving the Irish mob a pep talk.

He is apparently praying for the Domino Effect.

His vision is that Ireland should "lead the world" in plain packaging and that as soon as Ireland implements the measure, all others will fall in line and impose their own laws.  He seems to overlook the fact that his country introduced their measures back in 2012, so why Ireland should suddenly become the "leader" is beyond me.

“I cannot think of anything that could be done to tackle tobacco more effectively than Ireland introducing this measure,” said Prof Daube of Curtain University in Perth, who chaired the Australian government’s committee that recommended plain packaging.

So banning smoking in the workplace and in a lot of open spaces, the banning of all advertising and displays, the stigmatisation, bullying and "denormalisation" of smokers and all the massive tax hikes were just a mistake or maybe just a warm-up to the real killer – the plain package?

“We showed it could be done, but we are a low-population country on the other side of the world.”

Population of Australia – 23 million.  Population of Ireland 4 – million.  Is our population bigger than his?

It was important the Government was not bullied out of proceeding by the “zombie arguments” of the tobacco industry, he told a meeting organised by the Irish Cancer Society in Dublin.

I love the use of the words "bullied" and "zombie arguments"?  Words that are used frequently to describe the Anti-Smoker mob?

Although it was early days to decide whether the Australian initiative has been a success, the early signs were encouraging, he said. Daily smoking rates were down from 15.1 per cent to 12.8 per cent in three years (compared to 21.5 per cent in Ireland).

I would hardly call two years "early days"?  Maybe it will be "early days" until such time as they fabricate some figures?  As it is, his decline in daily smoking rates are frankly just zombie figures as can be nicely illustrated with a small graph –

Smoking decline graph

[Image robbed anonymously from Dick Puddlecote]

Prof Daube said the measure was no “silver bullet” but it was one of the most important elements of a comprehensive tobacco control policy. “Crucially, it has an impact on children and young people. It turns cigarette packs from glossy fashion accessories into something you don’t want to be seen with.”

"Silver bullet" it certainly isn't.  An irritatingly damp squib would be more on the mark.

I'm glad he mentions the cheeeeldren.  I would have been disappointed if he didn't.  He doesn't have much of an opinion of them though – kids only smoke so they can have a fashion accessory to flash around?  Maybe he should suggest they rob an empty packet and flash that around instead?  It would be a handy place too to store the fags they normally rob in ones and twos from their parents, siblings or friends?

Nine EU states have objected to the Irish proposal and the tobacco industry has complained plain packaging interferes with its intellectual property rights.

The ICS said yesterday its legal advice was that the measure curtailed, rather than eliminated, these rights, and that these had already been curtailed by previous health measures, such as the requirement for large warning notices on cigarette packs.

That really sums up the Anti-Smoker movement in a nutshell.  They ask for something small, such as a little warning or a ban on smoking in buses, and once they get their foot in the door they worm, lie and inveigle their way in further and further until they demand the entire package and a smoking ban everywhere.

These people really are a danger and a menace.

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Flying the Australian flag — 11 Comments

    • I presume the Irish Cancer Society did?  I wonder how many people who give to a "cancer curing charity" realise what their money is actually being spent on?

  1. The graph from DP is, I assume, measured in sales, since the upright axis is graded in $ millions. Of course, nobody really knows the size of the black market, but even the official (and thus understated) estimates record a massive surge in the illicit tobacco market, so I wouldn't be surprised if the small decline in official sales after the introduction of PP and the much larger drop after the tax hike had been totally absorbed by the black market, and that in reality there hasn't been any decline in smoking rates at all.


    And naturally, if Ireland follow like sheep on this then the man with a van will see business booming, and the Irish exchequer will wave goodbye to millions.

    But they live in a parallel universe called 'Public Health', and will refuse to admit to the existence of illicit tobacco, so a couple of years down the line they will be patting themselves on the back because sales of their medico-porn packs have dropped. "How clever we are!" they will be saying to each other.


    Fools and dullards, all.

    • Indeed that graph would be from "legitimate" sales.  I like to deal with the figures in front of me so I can't comment on the level of under the counter trade, though I believe it is more than significant. 

      As far as ASH and the gubmint are concerned there is no such thing as smuggled tobacco here in Ireland.  Every now and then they manage to capture a few hundred thousand and immediately gloat about how they are "stopping illicit trade".  They live in a sick insulated world of their own.

  2. Daube has to campaign constantly. That is how he justifies his parasitic state funded lifestyle. He is just one of many public health authoritarians hiding behind a false facade of concern for the children or whatever helps pull the wool over politicians eyes. Daube is a particularly arrogant and unpleasant example of this modern subspecies that is not confined to but is especially prevalent in public health. 

  3. Your packaging already has stated on it that smoking will cause harm and may harm others around you.  What else does he want?  "Smoking Kills!"  Yeah, we get that.  🙂

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