Comments on: Giving the child a fag for breakfast http://headrambles.com/2012/08/14/giving-the-child-a-fag-for-breakfast/ The rambling thoughts of an Irish Grandad Wed, 04 Mar 2015 18:31:16 +0000 hourly 1 By: Grandad http://headrambles.com/2012/08/14/giving-the-child-a-fag-for-breakfast/#comment-37529 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:48:24 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/?p=4882#comment-37529 Fuck it – I always hear people out.  In a situation where all advertising of any nature is banned, and where tobacco can’t even be displayed behind the counter, how can packet design possibly entice kids to start? There is no proof whatsoever to support the theory that it does.  The vast majority [if not all] start off “behind the bicycle shed” as an experiment or from peer pressure.  Branding is purely a means of brand identification for existing smokers.  My supplier?  Gallagher’s, I think, but I’m not sure.  They have probably been bought out by someone by now.  The brand is Condor, if you want to buy me some?

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By: Fuck it. http://headrambles.com/2012/08/14/giving-the-child-a-fag-for-breakfast/#comment-37526 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:43:24 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/?p=4882#comment-37526 As you know, people are generally thick. Wait, hear me out.

They don’t just buy a cigarette, in their heads they buy a life experience and more importantly a BRAND.

If you take away the branding, then you take this ridiculous reason to smoke away.

Who’s your tomacco supplier?  

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By: Grandad http://headrambles.com/2012/08/14/giving-the-child-a-fag-for-breakfast/#comment-37522 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:17:19 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/?p=4882#comment-37522 Fuck it – I am well aware that Niacin and Nicotine are not the same thing, but if the dumbfucks in Tobacco Control seriously believe that the mere colour of a cigarette pack will get a child addicted for life, then the comparison should be enough to give them all heart attacks! Oh, and did I mention that nicotine is to be found in tomatoes and potatoes?  :twisted:

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By: Fuck it. http://headrambles.com/2012/08/14/giving-the-child-a-fag-for-breakfast/#comment-37520 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:12:30 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/?p=4882#comment-37520 Nicotine and Niacin are barely similar in structure (nicotine is a third heavier) and biochemically, behave very differently in the body. 

As a comparison, wood alcohol (like you find in bad poitin) is barely different from regular alcohol but will instead cause blindness and death instead of a buzz.  Sometimes compounds that differ by being mirror images of each other behave very differently e.g. thalidomide.

You’re right about smoke though. More here http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-fireplace-delusion/

SH applies the argument to religion but the same argument applies to tobacco smoke… 

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By: Rod http://headrambles.com/2012/08/14/giving-the-child-a-fag-for-breakfast/#comment-37500 Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:40:05 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/?p=4882#comment-37500 Methinks the Lady(oul’ fella’,Grandads or any fucker) doth
protest too much…………… I doth do my head in.

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By: tt http://headrambles.com/2012/08/14/giving-the-child-a-fag-for-breakfast/#comment-37494 Thu, 16 Aug 2012 01:02:55 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/?p=4882#comment-37494 Global warming causes climate change. Weather patterns are altering as a result. Look it up. Look out your window.

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By: Grandad http://headrambles.com/2012/08/14/giving-the-child-a-fag-for-breakfast/#comment-37490 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:57:21 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/?p=4882#comment-37490 Nigel – Welcome to our happy [?] little band, and thanks for a lot of effort!  Indeed more and more non-smokers are beginning to see through the crap the antis pour out.  For example the latest is that somehow plain packs behind steel shutters are somehow better than coloured packs behind steel shutters.  And as you rightly point out [and as the smokers have been saying for a long time] the new list of targets – alcohol, sugar, salt, fat and so on] is going to affect everyone sooner or later.  Those who now sneer at the smokers and say “it’s for our own good” or whatever are soon going to find out just what it’s like to be on the receiving end of The Righteous Crusade.  [Oh, and thanks for the kind words!]

Fuck it – Could you please tell me where exactly I am wrong?

tt – Not Global Warming any more?  Just Climate Change?  That’s a bit of a climb down?

 

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By: tt http://headrambles.com/2012/08/14/giving-the-child-a-fag-for-breakfast/#comment-37487 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:55:32 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/?p=4882#comment-37487 You should try him with climate change.

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By: Fuck it. http://headrambles.com/2012/08/14/giving-the-child-a-fag-for-breakfast/#comment-37485 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:23:54 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/?p=4882#comment-37485 You couldn’t be wronger if you tried.

Which is odd, because on most subjects you’re on the mark, but once fags are involved, all reason and logic goes out the window. 

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By: Nigel http://headrambles.com/2012/08/14/giving-the-child-a-fag-for-breakfast/#comment-37483 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:07:05 +0000 http://www.headrambles.com/?p=4882#comment-37483 I’m not fat, don’t smoke and I don’t imbibe alcohol in any significant way (Except I do try to drink 2 pints of beer each week which works a treat in keeping my kidney stone attacks at bay). However I have always been a “picky eater”. I’m not partial to many vegetables and I will generally avoid most meat unless it is of very high quality without any trace of rubbery fat on it. I enjoy most dairy products and prefer large amounts of butter and salt in and on my food. I am not like this because of any idealogical preference, it is just simply the way I am. Many people find my dietary preferences to be oddly amusing. I currently hold deep feelings of resentment mostly directed towards the anti-sugar, anti-salt and obesity crusaders whose current efforts represent attacks against my eating preferences. When I visited the UK earlier this year I was struck by how these scoundrels were hell bent on ruining my favourite foods through incessant government lobbying aimed at pressuring companies to adopt salt, sugar and fat reduction strategies in the manufacture of their products. Even Marks & Spencer has started ruining their many wonderful food products, their bread tasted awful and my favourite cheese & onion pies now sported a crust made out of what appeared to be low grade cardboard.
Some of my best friends smoke cigarettes and I know very well how they feel about the villification of smokers. I am also well aware of the fabricated case against secondhand smoke and also understand the ecosystem which fosters and breeds the leeches which infest that swamp of thieving liars. Yes, I actually looked under the rug on this one quite some time ago and noticed the emperor had no clothes. As a result, I would like nothing more than to see most of these fake charities burned in a large fire. As a non-smoker I am certainly not taken in by their lies and deceptions. I should also mention that I have never thought of cigarette smoke as anything unpleasant and I certainly miss the pleasurable aromas I have always associated with cigar and pipe smokers. I heartily agree with the mysterious grandad on smoking/non-smoking pubs, this choice should be up to the owner of the establishment and is nobody else’s business.
I have no idea how long the latest war on smoking, alcohol and tasty food can continue as the general masses seem all too easily taken in by these tax sucking con-artists. Perhaps their fabrications and propaganda have to reach such stupendously ridiculous levels before the meaningful revolt occurs. Oh, and don’t get me started on the European Union……….
By the way old fella, I often check out your excellent blog and might show up as a visitor statistic under Canada.
 

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